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Master Sword Keeper · Apr 21, 2007, 06:59 AM // 06:59

In standard GW's PRICING.

TOMBS ARE 1k STANDARD.
ELITE TOMBS are WORTH 3k.

Nuff said. Trader's are a waste of time.

/notsigned

bilateralrope · Apr 21, 2007, 07:48 AM // 07:48

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Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper

In standard GW's PRICING.

TOMBS ARE 1k STANDARD.
ELITE TOMBS are WORTH 3k.

Nuff said. Trader's are a waste of time.

/notsigned

Why do you say those tomes have those prices ?

I expect to see your sources for these prices. In fact, I'd like to see where you got the idea that anything other than items sold by merchants had a fixed price, because I always thought that their prices were fluid because their prices moved up and down over time.

bhavv · Apr 21, 2007, 08:51 AM // 08:51

/notsigned

Im nearly legendary skill hunter with just 40ish more elites to go. I dont want this title to be aquireable via a trader.

Go work for it.

Mesmerman · Apr 21, 2007, 08:59 AM // 08:59

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw

With the addition of tomes, we now have a new way to unlock things... however the only way to trade them right now is via trade spam. It would be nice if there were a trader that can handle them for at least the elite tomes. Non elite ones would be okay to trader, but the price needs to be reasonable (less than 1k).

/signed

Only available to people who have beaten the game though. :P

Aki Soyokaze · Apr 21, 2007, 09:40 AM // 09:40

/notsigned

I agree with the above statements that on a matter of convenience there should be no trader added for tomes. The ability to simply go to the nearest tome trader and get a full skill bar without stepping foot outside a city is far too easy.

Regardless of the frustration of capping, you're playing and developing a character that you choose to play. The effort that you put into the development of your character should come at a cost in either time or gold. And while yes, going through 'snorefall' just to get one skill might not seem like it's worth it ultimately you're the one that's making the choice to develop another character. So if you want the tome that gets you the skill you want then one should have to work a little harder than going to the nearest trader to acquire that ability.

And while there are those that say they don't want to put up with trade spam it just comes back to the issue of convenience. Player X doesn't want to go into a city and look through trade to find what they want; Player X doesn't want to watch Enter up arrow, Enter up arrow, Enter up arrow; Player X doesn't want to spend time etc. It seems more likely that the issue is with either trade chat or players who just want to fly through the game. If you want something you should work for it.

KazeMitsui · Apr 21, 2007, 09:48 AM // 09:48

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are you freaking kidding me in anyway to include something like this? this one thing already pisses me off enough.. I who dished out 290k plat to go for skill hunter title now can just buy tomes instead of capping them wtf is this all about? seriously i think tomes should be taken out of the game completely. and if you want a trader that makes me even more p/od come on now think seriously

bhavv · Apr 21, 2007, 09:54 AM // 09:54

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Originally Posted by KazeMitsui

/notsigned

are you freaking kidding me in anyway to include something like this? this one thing already pisses me off enough.. I who dished out 290k plat to go for skill hunter title now can just buy tomes instead of capping them wtf is this all about? seriously i think tomes should be taken out of the game completely. and if you want a trader that makes me even more p/od come on now think seriously

Not just 290k plat, but also grinding enough XP to get 290 skill points.

Im on max tyria and cantha elites atm, 95/141 on elona and only have 12 skill points left, so I also need to farm a lot to get more XP.

Elite tomes I believe are very rare drops, and I would personally value them at 5-10k each. If they cost less then this, then reduce their drop rate plz.

MithranArkanere · Apr 21, 2007, 11:50 AM // 11:50

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Originally Posted by Dubby

-EDIT-

I changed my mind. /notsigned

Having this mechanism installed could potentially greatly diminish the in-game value of skill hunter titles.

I would, however, like to see a trader for non-elite tomes.

Let's say... The average price of an elite skill tome would be 10k.
90+140+291

5,210,000 gold.

Would you really think everybody would buy the title when you can capture a lot of skills much easier.
Nope, they'll just use the tomes for that particular skill that is at the end of a mission and is a hell of boring to capture.

Div · Apr 21, 2007, 12:31 PM // 12:31

/notsigned

Retarded idea. There's a reason skill trainers are there and there are cap sigs...lazy people that just want to ebay their gold and get sweet tooth, skill hunter x 3, max skill hunter for easy koabd.

Don't care what price you make it. It's the concept of buying titles so easily, especially since skill hunter should be one of those titles that show dedication in capping.

Calluette Hanuette · Apr 21, 2007, 01:00 PM // 13:00

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Easy enough to get anyway, found like..8 mesmer tomes and 2 elite mesmer tomes in one map vanquishing... >>; Just work for it, and if there are already skill trainers, why this? o.O Stop being lazy and cap or get the tomes yourself... >>; Also, I hate traders so...yeah~ ~.~

Alex the Great · Apr 21, 2007, 01:44 PM // 13:44

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Originally Posted by Faer

I disagree, on the grounds that convenience should come with a higher price. Tomes have made it possible to obtain amazing skill bars before ever leaving Ascalon City, without using a single skill point, and people should have to pay for that level of convenience.

For once, I believe the price of something should be regulated directly by the players, not by the stock level of an NPC (somewhat like weapons).

amen

I hate farming and That would just be another thing farmers could use to get great bars.

MasterPatricko · Apr 21, 2007, 02:00 PM // 14:00

Here's an idea: using Tomes should take skill points.

To me that's the real problem with them. Traders ... well ... maybe only for the normal (non-elite) tomes? That would keep the elite tome's value up and not impact the skill hunter titles.

TheBaron82 · Apr 21, 2007, 02:01 PM // 14:01

um Anet might as well remove skill trainer if they add tome trader for under 1k. 1k+1 skill point for 1 skill vs under 1k for the same skill.
/ not signed

KazeMitsui · Apr 21, 2007, 05:50 PM // 17:50

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Would you really think everybody would buy the title when you can capture a lot of skills much easier.
Nope, they'll just use the tomes for that particular skill that is at the end of a mission and is a hell of boring to capture.

no i dont think everyone will buy this title but yea from the second line of your quote dont be lazy put some work into it and quit bizitching about how boring how hard it is.. either that or quit the game. do some work for your title dont drop plat and say oh yay i got this title cause 5 skills i didnt want to cap and im a lazy bum so i just bought them yay yay go me. so yes i expect you to go out there and freakin cap the skill. you think i had fun doing abaddons mouth and ring of fire mission many times when 1 skill didnt appear.? not really but i sucked it up and didnt complain cause it was so hard blah blah and all that. so yea shut up cap it and work for it

GGGGGGGGGGGG

geekling · Apr 21, 2007, 06:55 PM // 18:55

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Originally Posted by Eldin

We don't need lvl 5s running around with elites

Instead we have lvl 5 heroes running around with elites...

MithranArkanere · Apr 22, 2007, 01:18 AM // 01:18

Geez.
Traders make prices fair and prevent people from scamming and abusing.
Anyone against traders just want to get more gold than what things cost.

Would this make skill trainers useless? No. Traders can have minimum and maximum prices set.

That is, they could sell non-elite tomes for 2k or 3k, if they want to, for the extra of 'you don't need an skill point'.
The same for Elite tomes, making the have a minimum of 10k or even 20k.

The point is not that if this would make getting skills easier, but it will put another, much more important limit, the maximum limit.

Wilhelm · Apr 22, 2007, 01:22 AM // 01:22

Tomes were a horrible idea to begin with....this is even worse.

I"ve worked damn hard to cap every elite so far, and now anyone can just buy elites, and ultimatly have the same title without leaving Ascalon City.

Winterclaw · Apr 22, 2007, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Let's say... The average price of an elite skill tome would be 10k.
90+140+291

5,210,000 gold.

Would you really think everybody would buy the title when you can capture a lot of skills much easier.
Nope, they'll just use the tomes for that particular skill that is at the end of a mission and is a hell of boring to capture.

I can't think of many people other than Dral with that kind of money to throw around and if they have the time to farm 5 million GP, then they probably can or have capped a bunch already.

Most elites that are easily cappible I don't see people using this for, maybe if they have feast of corruption unlocked but not capped they'd use this for. I see them using this for harder elites to get or someone who PvPs a lot and needs to get an unlocked elite asap for his next pvp run.

Master Ketsu · Apr 22, 2007, 02:11 AM // 02:11

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Originally Posted by Dubby

-EDIT-

I changed my mind. /notsigned

Having this mechanism installed could potentially greatly diminish the in-game value of skill hunter titles.

I would, however, like to see a trader for non-elite tomes.

Oh boo hoo. So suddenly since its somewhat slightly easier to get were shoving it in the faces of those who got it normally ? What a shame </sarcasm>

The only titles that take skill to get are glads and hero. Every other title = Grind Wars. The majority shouldnt have to suffer just because the title farmers will feel like their E-penis shrunk because of it.

Dubby · Apr 22, 2007, 02:58 AM // 02:58

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

Every other title = Grind Wars.

All titles are grinds.